[As well i]t was simply too risky for me not to be grooming some other writers to fill the break if necessary. One of the things I had to do was to cut rates and tell people they were going to make less money, which was not an enviable position. Disney has counter-sued to protect their interests. LARRY LIEBER: Thank me for Anthony Stark. We need the help of good genealogists to grow a completely free shared family tree to connect us all. You could have said it this way, or this way or that way," and Im realizing, yeah, I don't think of it that way or this way. Q: And did you pay for that typewriter? Q: What how did you come to work on Rawhide Kid? Dr. Lawrence D. Lieber is a Orthopedist in Lombard, IL. All I thought of was will Stan like this or will he tell me, 'Larry, this isn't good, you can't do this.' Q: Now, when you were paid by the page for the purchase of your work, did they take out any taxes from your checks? I reduce the pencils and I fax them. Last year, he and several others were called to give depositions in the Kirby family v Marvel case which involves the Kirby family's quest to terminate Marvel's copyrights on 45 characters Kirby helped create. I don't know. Q: When you did free when you did freelance work between 1958 and 1964, you did not have a written contract, correct? Well, wait a minute. I didn't have any steady work then. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Stanley Martin (Stan) Lee formerly Lieber. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah. My brother was back from the Service, he was just married and he moved out outside of New York to Long Island. Larry Lieber was witness to the aftermath of one story conference. LARRY LIEBER: That I did freelance work for them? His family had to live in financial difficulties in a one-bedroom apartment. LARRY LIEBER: No. Slowly surveying our entire, vast writing staff which mainly consisted of myself and any occasional freelancer who happened to wander in to make a free phone call my gaze happened to fall upon Larry Lieber and I remembered that he had many times expressed a desire to write a superhero story.[19]. I learned well enough that I was able to give a course some years later for him. There would be no reason for me to look at it. [4], Lee wrote in his autobiography that when Larry was a teenager, the boys' mother died and Lieber went to live with his brother and his sister-in-law, Joan, prompting the trio's move to Woodmere, New York, on Long Island. [8] His first superhero work, the first appearance of Marvel's Thor in Journey into Mystery #83 (Aug. 1962), introduced one of the mainstays of the Marvel Universe, the mystical metal "uru", of which Thor's hammer Mjolnir is made. No worries. '"[20] Under Lee's plotting, Lieber's eight Thor stories also introduced the Marvel characters Loki, Odin, and Balder, from the pantheon of Norse mythological gods; their home, Asgard; and Bifrost the Rainbow Bridge, which connected that realm to Earth. No. [3] When he was six months old, the family moved to The Bronx,[4] settling into at 1720 University Avenue, which Lee described as a one-bedroom, "third-floor apartment facing out back", with him and Larry sharing a bedroom and his parents using a foldout couch. View the profiles of people named Larry Liebe. [8], In 1980 and 1981, concurrent with the Hulk strip, Lieber contributed some degree of penciling on the daily and Sunday comic strip The Amazing Spider-Man until Fred Kida took over as regular penciler. Lieber is the younger brother of the late Marvel Comics writer, editor, and publisher Stan Lee. 1962). And again, I made up the civilian name. Q: Who came up with the ideas for the characters that would be in the story? Q: in this photostat copy are scotch tape? But if you didn't come into the office, I don't remember if they sent them to you. I mean, what would you what would you turn in? MR. TOBEROFF: Assumes facts. Or perhaps the freelancers had a different hour or different day, I don't know. As Lieber recalled of those creature features, Stan made up the plot, and then he'd give it to me, and I'd write the script. [16], Under Stan Lee plots, Lieber would go on to script the debut origin stories and other early appearances of the superheroes Thor (co-created with artist Jack Kirby) in Journey into Mystery, Iron Man (co-created with Kirby and Don Heck) in Tales of Suspense, and Ant-Man (co-created with Kirby) in Tales to Astonish. At this point in the late 1950s, Kirby was drawing science fiction / fantasy stories followed by giant-monster tales in what collectors and historians call "pre-superhero Marvel" comics, primarily Journey into Mystery, Strange Tales, Tales of Suspense and Tales to Astonish. Enjoyed this? Lieber, by now living in the Tudor City apartment complex in Manhattan, began freelancing[14] regularly for the nascent Marvel Comics, "writing stories for Jack [Kirby] to draw",[12] referring to the artist who had co-created Captain America for the company in 1940 and had recently returned for a long, exclusive stint in which Kirby would co-create many signature Marvel characters in the Silver Age of Comics. LARRY LIEBER: It was the same before. His wife Joan, to whom he'd been married since 1949 . I said "Yes, I needed work. I I wrote a few books, the first issue or the first couple issues, yes. LARRY LIEBER: I really don't. Entertainment, Inc. 9440 Santa Monica Blvd. But a page of script would have panel one, panel two, panel three. Jury finds Harvard professor Charles Lieber guilty of hiding ties to China Charles Lieber, the former chair of Harvard's chemistry department, has been convicted of lying to the university and the . Married 2 children together. [22] Lieber wrote the first nine Ant-Man stories (following the character's non-costumed introduction months earlier) in Tales to Astonish #35-43 (Sept. 1962 - May 1963) before veteran Ernie Hart did five issues, followed by Lee taking over. Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western . LARRY LIEBER: Okay, I didn't know the term. I lived with him for a while and it didn't work out so well. 26 October 1931. - Larry Lieber Speaks", "Jim Mooney Over Marvel: From Terrytoons to Omega the Unknown, Jim talks Comics", "Larry Lieber Retires from The Amazing Spider-Man", "Archie Goodwin, Larry Lieber to Receive Bill Finger Award", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Larry_Lieber&oldid=1139371947, This page was last edited on 14 February 2023, at 20:06. The average comic book fan might not know Lieber has helped shaped Marvel as we know it today, co-creating . (Lieber Exhibit 6, an excerpt from Jack Kirby Collector Forty-One, marked for identification, as of this date.). Brother of Stan Lee. I said, 'I'm not really a writer.' There's an incredible amount of material here so what I'm going to do is break down and excerpt stuff that jumps out at me. "[15], Lieber's earliest, tentatively confirmed pre-superhero Marvel script is for the six-page Don Heck-illustrated "I Am the Beast-Man" in Strange Tales #77 (Oct. 1960), and his first confirmed is the 13-page "I Led the Strange Search for Manoo", penciled by Kirby and inked by Dick Ayers, in Amazing Adventures #2 (July 1961). So I always felt I couldn't get work from any other company, and some years later, I met the man who was the, I guess, art director there and we were we were chatting, and I happened to bring this up about I sent work over and I never got it, and he looked at me in surprise and said, "You mean that was on the level?" Both are captured by the mysterious Mr. Nash, who wants to clone the Hulk. LARRY LIEBER: Stan. '58. Q: Okay. (break in testimony) [18] I needed someone to write the new feature, which would hopefully be Marvel's fourth winner in our little superhero sweepstakes. View the profiles of people named Larry Lieber. LARRY LIEBER: Stan offered me I had to earn a living. Q: Have you ever submitted a, what we call a declaration or affidavit in connection with a lawsuit? This I happen to remember. MS. SINGER: Objection. After you finished writing the first script for Iron Man, what happened? LARRY LIEBER: Oh, no. [8], Lieber, who credits Lee as a good editor, writer and writing teacher, said his brother made very few editorial changes to Lieber's scripts. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Join Facebook to connect with Larry Lieber and others you may know. As Lieber explained, Lee, wasn't always the most patient person and I had problems [writing] the dialogue and he said, "Why did you say that? What I didn't prefer was the style that was developing. Now, I knew nothing about black-and-white comics, right? Do you know whether strike that. Discover Larry Lieber's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. Q: The "he" when you said "he"? Q: And your brother is? After a while, I'd just go to the typewriter. Early life. Larry Lieber was born in Manhattan, New York City, New York, the second child of Romanian Jewish immigrant parents Celia (Solomon; 1898-1947) and Jack Lieber (1893-1964), and the brother of Stanley Martin Lieber, later known as Marvel Comics editor and impresario Stan Lee. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus. When I went there, Martin put out two kinds of books. Larry Lieber studied at the Pratt Art Institute, Brooklyn, New York, and the Art Students League, New York City. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah, that's where it was ripped and I have tape on them. I didn't do enough of the superheroes to know whether I'd like them. ", So, so that was it for me. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah, I yeah, I guess. . Well, if it was seven-page story, I would have each page what was on the page. It probably was at no, it must have been at the on 57th Street when they were there on Madison, and Jack Kirby came out of Stan's office from and from the direction of Stan's office. Did you ever have any interactions with Jack Kirby when he was drawing scripts that you had done? (break in testimony) Wikipedia (15 entries) edit. He is a writer, known for Iron Man (2008), Ant-Man (2015) and Avengers: Endgame (2019). 3: Randy's New Obsession? I know I made it short because I felt that Thor might be around a while and I was always worrying about the letterer or somebody. LARRY LIEBER: No. [5] At "about ten-and-a-half", with his brother in the U.S. Army, Lieber and his parents returned to Manhattan, moving to the Washington Heights neighborhood. I don't recall anything until the book came out and I got a copy of it and saw. As Lieber recalled, "I kind of liked it; it was short. MS. SINGER: Good work. Q: And when you say you were writing the stories, what exactly were you writing? Serving during the Korean War, he spent two of those years stationed at Okinawa,[4] after having done his boot-camp training at the since-defunct Sampson Air Force Base, near the Finger Lakes region of New York State. I remember in the early years seeing it. And there were other people in the office, but nobody else seemed to have noticed this, which I was glad about, and I just took them, walked over to where I was sitting and put them in my case. I simply wouldn't have the time to continue with The Fantastic Four, The Hulk, Spider-Man and the other odd Western, mystery, romance, humor, and assorted monster tales I was writing and still do justice to our newest feature yet a'borning. LARRY LIEBER: No. He was putting out color comics, and he was also going to put out black-and-white comics like Warren and Marvel. I'm supposed to object before you answer. Q: Do you know who the artist was who drew the first Iron Man? As Stan Lee recalled, in his trademark jocular style, in 1974, Heretofore, I had written all of the origin tales of each new character, as well as the subsequent follow-up stories in every series. No. [23], With the end of his run on Rawhide Kid, Lieber found little further Marvel work. Q: For all the time you worked there? LARRY LIEBER: No. [29], The Hulk was kind of popular on television, and so I drew The [Incredible] Hulk. LARRY LIEBER: I don't know the year, you know, all the years and I don't know if it was. [1], Lieber also penciled The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #4-5 (1967-1968), the latter introducing in flashback the late parents of protagonist Peter Parker; co-wrote and co-penciled the first solo Doctor Doom feature story, in Marvel Super-Heroes #20 (May 1969);[11] and did occasional other work including, for Magazine Management's men's magazines, several stories of the bawdy "nudie-cutie" comedy feature "Pussycat". Q: None whatsoever? children: Jan Lee, Joan Celia Lee. When he was six months old, the family moved to The Bronx, settling at 1720 University Avenue, which Lee . For roughly a year and a half, he lived in the since-defunct Hotel Manhattan Towers, a residence hotel at Broadway and West 76th Street in Manhattan. No. MR. TOBEROFF: Objection. LARRY LIEBER: I just made it up, as far as I know. It had been written, yeah, before me by Stan and Jack Kirby. Suite 620 Beverly Hills, CA 90210-4608 USA: Hobbies: Writing stories: Q: And the "he" there was Stan Lee? Assumes facts. How? I was very young and I had a couple of jobs. Regardless, his next confirmed credit is penciling and inking the three-page story "A World to Conquer" in Journey into Unknown Worlds #52 (Dec. 1956), followed by stories in such Atlas romance comics as Love Romances, Love Tales, Stories of Romance, True Tales of Love and The Romances of Nurse Helen Grant in issues cover-dated April to August 1957 and July 1958. As Lieber, in a 1999 interview, described his experience as editor: The template below (Block quote) is being considered for deletion. [11] This included creating the names of their respective alter egos: Don Blake, Tony Stark, and Henry Pym. LARRY LIEBER: Oh, yes. So I couldn't do that, I couldn't work. Ancestors. LARRY LIEBER: No. I don't know. Q: And how did you come to write the first script? I'm sorry. Tudor City had a park, and when it was nice I'd sit there and break the story down picture by picture. I was unsure of myself just sitting down to write a script. LARRY LIEBER: Stan. Q: And did you pay for your own supplies, whatever they were? [27], The Hulk was kind of popular on television, and so I drew The [Incredible] Hulk. He remembered writers from the past. Q: I think you mentioned that you started working at Marvel in about 1958? Q: You mentioned that Stan would give you the synopsis or the plot. Larry has testified in both Federal and State courts on the subjects of computer . Lieber largely left superheroes to write and pencil what would be his signature series, the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid, beginning with issue #41 (Aug. 1964) and continuing through 1973 (after which it became a reprint title). [9], In 1941, Lee was made the editor of Timely Comics, the future Marvel Comics, then a division of a publishing company owned by a relative, Martin Goodman. He was born in the borough of Manhattan. [9] Lieber began working for Goodman as an art assistant on the magazine side, "doing paste-ups. LARRY LIEBER: It was after I had done The Rawhide Kid and I was trying, trying to earn a living doing some drawing of covers and also writing, and I wrote various stories. Walt Disney Co. has targeted several legendary comic book artists with lawsuits seeking to decisively establish that it owns the rights to Marvel superheroes they helped create. Q: Have you scotch-taped them together? Join Facebook to connect with Larry Liebe and others you may know. I don't remember when I first got them. 3 references. Yes. LARRY LIEBER: What was the question, if I may? Q: Okay. I assume I I I must have put it in and given it to Stan's office, perhaps his secretary or somebody, I think I did, and then they paid me and I I don't remember. Q: Do you have any recollection that it stopped at some point? Q: How did you get paid for the work that you were doing for Marvel, 1958 to 1965? Q: So you got paid for the script but you weren't paid for your redoing the plot a number of times? [33], Lieber was a recipient of the San Diego Comic-Con International's 2003 Inkpot Awards. LARRY LIEBER: No. Devoted son of Issie and Marsha Lieber, and son-in-law of Jeannette and Rejean Gagne . MR. TOBEROFF: That's okay. Q: What did you come up with? But both are doing them, you know, about playing a part. Q: And what was your involvement with Iron Man? "[10] There Lieber began illustrating comic books; his first known credit is penciling and inking the four-page story crime comics story "Cop on the Beat", by an unknown writer, in All True Crime #44 (cover-dated May 1951). LARRY LIEBER: No. When Larry Lieber went back 'on record', he was being question by Toberoff, who is acting for the Kirby Estate) Larry Lieber has 1 sibling. Newly minted 13th Dimension regular Jim Beard is back with another foray into Marvel's past this time paying tribute to Larry Lieber, who was born 91 years ago on Oct. 26, 1931. [1], Lieber also penciled The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #4-5 (1967-1968), the latter introducing in flashback the late parents of protagonist Peter Parker; co-wrote and co-penciled the first solo Doctor Doom feature story, in Marvel Super-Heroes #20 (May 1969);[11] and did occasional other work including, for Magazine Management's men's magazines, several stories of the bawdy "nudie-cutie" comedy feature "Pussycat". 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