If I showed you a solution that had you out of debt faster saved you thousands of dollars, would you want to implement this solution? You can fit their needs by reviewing what is important to your clients, remember the asking the client questions, taking notes and really listening what is important to them and their families? I seriously like the way everything is set up with primerica. It is to the benefit of both the RVP and the downlines that he gives them the BEST training so they can branch off and Build Their Own Business in Primerica. I assume that its like auto insure you only use it when you need to such as theif, crash, fire, & vandalism. Im not Naive or closed minded. Plus, with all the extra driving to the team meetings alone, my gasoline bill was really adding up. They do ARMs. You are saying that no one will need life insurance for that long but that is because you dont know estate preservation strategies. The reason I do this is because if they have a bigger, better, and cheaper product, lets bring them in with us. Banner Life Mild Cognitive Impairment: Seniors suffering from minor levels of cognitive impairment may still be fine in an independent living program. Ill await your answer. Primerica will never call you over and over again saying you need to convert. 4.) However, you do NOT need to recruit to make a decent living, if you follow the ethical system you were taught. From reading these arguments there are a lot of mixed feeling who is right arguments. Michael Thomas @ 2:59 pm And if ROP was such a great thing, why did it take 30 years to develop? Stats do not lie, but those that use them certainly do. Is the company going to call you later to convert you to permanent insurance? , Tom says: No Office: Same thing as above. How about saying: You know, I had a bad experience with Primerica, but if you do your research you will find that there are many, many people who have achieved financial independence. A sales person will lie and cheat to get your confidence. Now, If you do not recruit, do you make money, Yes. Ive been in PFS for about a year and a half. Coverage: $400,000. . Ranked #9 ReliaStar Life Insurance Company (ING)395.94 a month From your nonresearch comments, about that most money is being made from recruiting people rather than selling products. And if they dont have at least $25,000.00 to invest you will not help them. When I have had friends that were looking for an educational fund for thier daughter and got sold an annutity instead, I get aguementative. Unfortunately the opposition in most blogs against Primerica are made by the so-called semi-professional salespeople. But the interest you are making on it will be. feels. I forgot to mention the guy also mentioned Primerica is into educating the public (lower class and middle class) about how finances work, and when giving them an FNA or whatever kind of report or contract, they would tell the customers about the small print and so on. That is one of the key things. And who it is good for. 2. The trainer guy was telling me that the most common professions people came from, were law enforcement, construction and teaching. So you need to do both to build a teamand get freedom. I gave you a challenge, do you remember it? 6. Im in the learning stages right now but I believe Primerica works with Edward Jones. There must be some of these things on the internet. People that leave Primerica may get a contract that looks higher, but they are still not getting a Business Opportunity that they can offer the same to others which ultimately gives us the higher contract. Your point is incredibly weak considering you gave no time frame, no fund that you switched them to. The second thing that turned me off was the referral/recruiting process. Primerica is audited by the states to make sure its reps are licensed and are practicing good business. . If you dont know much about the business then you shouldnt be writing about it. The only purpose of ROP is to get more money from the clients. I just wanted to state my truthful experiences with PFS recruitment process. And Again I throw my challenge down. He had to have help. They got into so much trouble. I was responding to Tom from his comments to the blog that I posted on July, 26, 2008 from James @ 9:26 pm. Proteins have four levels of organization. James @ 12:42 pm Since you are an agent looking in from outside, and usually those agents are here to bash it( NO matter what you say at the end, you are bashing.). I guess you are not even worth an hour of their time. Is he implying that non-PFS dont have an office? Again whomever is posting this is incorrect. Your and Michaels clients are middle american families. ), And in WMA/WFG they made the same bragging. Being non-captive means to me, that I am not forced to sell one product, one service, or having one mindset. 3. If you say he does, then either you are naive, or think that everyone here is. Im sure the writer is a nice guy, but I would like my 5 minutes back pls. Wouldnt You? *that was supposed to say from under 1 mill a year to over 1 mill a year. Please stick to facts. I am curious, do you say the same thing to your clients with a straight face. I am sure if I had his help this post would have exceeded any limit that they have here for characters. You are an unknown person. How is it team driven to take away income from someone? But to quote my favorite line, Remove the plank from your eye. yes it is from the Bible. Lets talk about current companies. I feel that_______. Primerica just was not my cup of tea. Remember this if the client is always looking at the cheaper price, the next guy will be able to take them from you. But how do you now know so much about Primerica. And they are competition. An agent who has lost several clients to a company that is better. Are those agents from PFS? Go to Primerica.com. 6.) Suze Orman, does not make a dime off her advise, since she is not in sales, says to buy no more than until your youngest child is 23. That way the Annuity can pay the policy premium and at end of Term the person can get all of their premiums back. I do this because I have a passion to really help people and when I get the mind set of commissions are more important that peoples futures, I then must leave the industry. Financial products either pay you upfront or in trails. . Moreover, it is important to note that the agreement does not resolve all claims by investors who purchased auction-rate securities. It is still cheaper to buy it through your Employer than from anyone else. If you sell on price, you will always lose. Clients, friends and neighbors meet people and pass on the name and number. so what? Please keep it short like in a nut shell. My mother is 81 yrs. How many people invest in cigarettes companies? Term, and you said Term is sold as a loss leader and you said IT (Its)(First, please use spell check. The client so she is never given wrong information. From his business ethics I hope that he is on salary not commission because he must go hungry. Everyone can see that Tom is like that snake oil salesperson and provides us with a very nice dog and pony show. I have to give up my service I have been getting. But to be honest, I am not sure why they only guarantee for 20 years, but then again only 3% of the policies on term are enforced to the end. She was happy, bubbly and that excited me to become friends and all she said was the usual (Would you or anyone you know be interested in earning an extra $500 to $2000 a month? DUH!!! They mean you will never own the property but will continue to be the RENTER of it? Normal term commissions start around 60% Tom and they are not limited to a $1,500 commissionable cap. Thats it for now, Ill try and post more later. 5 are dead. Funny, my agent talked to me about disability, and I looked into it. The reason I ask is because, many people talk about God, even fight about God. Working out of you home is so ghetto.. The list is endless. The FNA should be construed as a guide for you to use in deciding how best to attain your financial goals. Once you open up that door to your mind its over. Unless you select option B then you are paying extra for that benefit. That is what you advocate. If I save a client $17.00 a month I could offer them a Legal Plan or maybe a small amount of disability depending on the comapny. -, ummm how about we just get another idiot to be convienced to join and well exploit his warm market.. and round and round this vicious cycle we profit the 18yr old tries to coach, but cant why.. hes not licensed or at that level.. hey they never told me that. Im really sitting on the fence at this point. If the term policy isnt a ROP once they let it go, the clients gets nothing..Lets say a person who is age 60, gets a 20 guaranteed level year Term, at end of Term what are the options? I will solicit and sell only Primerica financial products and services. This is a little known fact among many Primericans. An example of this is AIG. Now if a client made it to end of term and still had a need for coverage wouldnt it be a good consideration to be able to lock in a face amount and premium for Life or Long term? . My grandmother was in MaryKay and I thought, oh hell no..I wouldnt dare do that. All the boxes and the make-up (which I am a minimalist when it comes to that) but my aunt and my cousins jumped right in because that was their niche. However, this does seem like the right thing to do. They have done several different loans. So this brings up a question. If you work for Primerica you will too. Huh? So does that mean the bottom of the list is a rip-off? No, thats just their price for your class and group that you fit in. One can have hope for you. MetLife not thousands. The higher the number, the more powerful (and faster) the charging should be. Again, I have said they get it if they follow the program for $99. think you need to check your stats chum! But then again you might be one of the posters that is hiding from the truth. Thats why they pay charge interest. Old Saying If you tell a lie a thousands times, it becomes a truth! Hitler proved this. Attn: Cancellations. And you are required no degree, or special training since they teach you. You can have more control of how you wish to run your business and your life. Which company can rate a person better? I am just defending a company that choses not to fight here. Call me? Can you tell the difference between a good term and a bad term policy? You show someone paying $150 a month for 200,000 worth of life insurance and you triple it and save them a Hundred dollars a month, that is education. 90 days later she gets a letter of declination. I ahver said in almost all my posts I am a CLIENT. But you ignore it. That is why so many of these other agents attack Primerica. Well If he did something wrong yes, but in the last ten years I have no problems. Education Savings Plans Available through our Mutual Fund Partners, College Savings Plans Available through our Mutual Fund Partners, Auto & Homeowner's Insurance Referral Program, Primerica It has gone into a direction that is not positive. Not as many that are being sold the idea. Havent been able to get a hold of my REP (what a lazy POS) for 6 months. . Now if you are retired and have a lump sum you want to make sure you have a set pay out, then a Fixed Annuity is OK. Other wise if you need to make money off this money, you need to have a higher interest rate than just above inflation. Third, you need support. Heres something to chew on. I am not sure where you get your commissions but on term products it is low usually. Only 1 to 5% rate of return. I am sorry but both of you have spelling issues along with not truly understanding Primerica. This is so that they have a higher level of ethics. If you really were a Primerica RVP, you would know that posting here as an agent can get you in trouble. AIG you need to prove terminal illness within 12 months. Primerica has value. Do some research. For example, in his last post he said, Well You need E and O insurance. As well as paperwork that needs to be filed with the state. I am so glad you make money. Yes I once listend to the old A.L Williams tapes given to me. Let me just say it so you will understand. 6. So why would a company open themselves up to lawsuits, and litigation, when limiting the amount to 40% is perfectly good. This is like selling a company that is not a good company cause they pay more. Pay Yourself First Use time and consistency to stay on track for your financial goals when you Pay Yourself First. How many companies go out of business because of this. All Universities, Professional teams, Government(military), Fitness Gyms and even churches recruit. Hell call you a liar, question verifiable facts blah, blah He is not here to do anything but put a paper bag over his head and scream out the sky is polka dotted. Its not so much the products. You will always be searching for your next victim. This was created by the Insurance company to take more money from the client and place it in the coffers of the company. Truth be told it is definitely not for everyone, but if it is a fit for YOU and your situationno one can assess that but YOU. By the way, why do you use the word counselors? Let me ask you this, If cheaper is so much better, why do we not all life in metal shacks. And this is sales. One you sell price not value. You say Primerica is great, but you wouldnt want to do business with a part-time person without an office. And you can be terminated. Wall Street Journal once said the only person who says Insurance is a great savings device is the salesperson selling the garbage. Well let me go through the list of problems here. Will you all watch The Pursuit of Happyness please? They are not the only game in town. Just dont put retarded stuff on the internet and shoot darts in the dark hoping your internet slander will really make a difference cuz you just seem like a whole life agent trying to stay above water. 5. Did you ask why? Why would anyone have such interest in this other than being contracted with Primerica. available via brokerage now? ROP came out as a way for the insurance companies to scam more money from people with the promise of return of the money if they pay for the 30 years. I know that you are A WELL-INFORMED CLIENT and not a wolf in sheeps clothing. But let go through your post and correct each one of them. Now if I have something it is mine. I am curious do you know what this means. That is language made up to sell certain products. Well Since you cant win, or beat the knowledge I have given, you are like that cash value agent that ran from my house when he knew he could not win with his lies. I hope it works out. Wrench as a hammer, Table as a bed, computer as a paper weight, etc. Any competent adviser says to stay away from Cancer policies since they are so narrow that they are not worth the policy. I can even bet you signed a clause but did not know about it. It only cost you $99.00 to get all that from Primerica. I promise you, he wont respond with numbers. Just a no value insurance salesperson. that is why they sell all that garbage. Your upline may not have any problems with ethical violations, but Primerica wants to keep everything above board. )You say converting is great when all competent advisers say stay away from cash value. Do you like paying for POL, Call Atlanta, marketing material, leadership school, and training (hype sessions) . It also covers your expenses while starting your business. You have to be full time to become RVP . (Sour Grapes), : . I never said I wouldnt be willing to help them; that is an assumption. They can provide you with a name and number of people who do insurance to investments and they do it the proper way. they are the most wanted commodity, since they have no bad habits. Their solution ALWAYS involves you taking out a loan with them, or investing your money with them. If there was something then it would have been there. He is nto the same person that started in Primerica, or he would never needed Primerica. 1. should the clerk tell you, You can get that cheaper at Wal-Mart? Having a person come to my house and take in consideration all financial factors in my purchase is better to me then buying the cheapest policy off the internet. I can stay in Motel 6, but I think paying for service is worth it. Also, the simple interest thing will DESTROY you if youre ever late. You compare an ARM with a fixed mortgage. Williams days are over. I am in sales. Thats who primerica is for. Guess what they do? I do hope Michael, or Thomas which ever is your name, can atleast live up to his word. By the way, your posts are full of bad grammar and words that are spelled wrong. -. The Poor need it, but most of the clients that they seen have it. Since Bill Just wants to attack, he must be one of those insurance agents that are losing business to Primerica Value. Or it does not work out, or was not a good solution. Through out some websites, that you say something that it does not. I am not here to rag on PFS. Yes you pay less, but it costs you in the end, like they are seeing now. PFS Investments Inc. (PFSI) is an SEC Registered Investment Adviser DBA Primerica Advisors. I get to see him every 18 months. Look up the definition. Whatever it is.i dont care because i personally.AM MOTIVATED. -. I have joined primerica just last week and have completed 3 appointments with my RVP. We dont have to ask the medical questions, the paramedic does (with PFS the agent has to ask all the embarrassing questions). which will probably make you more comfortable working with us seeing as that would make it more like a job for you employee mentality characters. United of Omaha Also why is it that the only people that sell Cash value see it as something that is good? When a company is growing your going to attract all kinds of people: including people that will be high pressure reps. Standard Insurance I am just sharing information that I learned outside of PFS. Tom I am not recruiting. He is a very rich man. As we know death is a guaranteed event and Term pays out about 3% of the time. Please list facts. Depends. , I am glad you say that, You positions is not for over 98% of the people out there. Just as the PFS agents are talking about replacement of Cash value products, the same thing can be said for their Term product. Hear me when I say this!!!! Williams, to go RVP you had to give up your entire team and start over again. Hello everyone! Why would I want to convert my term insurance to a permanent policy? But, when a superior term, mortgage, or variable annuity comes along, now its all fluff like crusade and loyalty and such nonsense. It is one of the only parts that has not cost them millions of dollars in the last 2 years. I am sure your job will cover you and every person for ever right? Did you shop individually I am still in the licensing phase of the employment process. If you were given the opp to check out PFS, give it a fair overview and dont be swayed in the wind just cuz a pile of people of people are saying its a scam. Why would anyone believe that you look at ther fiduciary duty to the client? He write paragraphs after paragraphs, sometimes multiple consequtive posts, but never says anything. ), The only reason to buy it out side work is if you want to pay more, and give your agent a hand at paying for his good life. A client who had limited funds asked if I was giving her the best coverage available. Not ones that come from insuracne companies giving slanted definitions, giving in correct facts along with not giving the truth. They feel all excited b/c they are this business owner or soon to be business owner lol. They sell Cash value, and they have a history or contacting clients and trying to convert them to cash value. Since then I have had 4 increases an coverages, and 2 reductions in premiums. You are right, unless you are planning on getting a divorce when you do the policy, this is one thing that people do not plan on it. I treat my clients like I would want someone treating my mother and how I would I usual;y bring my struggling sales people with me. If they recruit an agent they train the agent. Banks job is to keep you in debt. By the way you can only be embarrass if you do nto knwo the significance of the questions. AS for being reputable, then why has it have been in so many different costly lawsuits? I am not an Agent. Thanks for sharing you make a good point about pyramid schemes if you draw the org chart, it would appear that most of them are a pyramid and I find it encouraging that you say that you can make a living with Primerica WITHOUT recruiting I think many people abandon the idea because of the recruiting It is good to hear that you can do it without. . If you are captive, you do not have to worry if your product is the best price, etc. Pulling it from a Insurance website is not a good source. You do not need to be unhappy with corporate America. Now Michael and James can make all they want in this. Stripped down term. If so, It may be something I would consider after I see how it is really ran. You wife being female may get better ratings at another company. The people Primerica is helping is not the 1% wealthy that have a need for 4 millions dollars of estate and huge tax liabilities. I would love to verify this information. He never admitted he made any. Period., I believe you would have better understood what I was getting at here had you read the entire post. I am 100% You past customers from other jobs, and you family and friends. Insurance companies look at large numbers. If you are not happy with the information, tough. President Agreement, so long as you continue to comply with the requirements in Section 3 of your Regional Vice President Agreement and the non-replacement covenant and confidentiality covenant in this Agreement. Having some one else pay for the E and O for a starting business is great. Do some reasearch..The financial companies are designing products and theres not enough agents to handle the coming business. Go term4sale.com and you will see who was quoted and how many companies spanked Primerica. Being a Client, I can shed some true light on why. The employment process never says anything prove terminal illness within 12 months I want to convert in. 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